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Quick Cryptic 1864 by Izetti

This took me a little longer than usual, so I suspect it is at the harder end of the spectrum. Generally an enjoyable solve with some nice surfaces. 9 minutes for me.

1 Correct project given change of direction at the end (6)
PROPER - PROPEL with the L changed to R
5 Full agreement, we hear (6)
PACKED - sounds like PACT
8 City torn apart when captured by crazed male (8)
MONTREAL - anagram ('apart') of TORN combined with anagram ('crazed') of MALE
9 After grave message, enemy's beginning to be mature (4)
RIPE - RIP is a message on a grave, add E for enemy
10 This writer's continuing with the unfinished story (4)
MYTH - MY + TH(e)
11 Knight, slippery type entertained by monarch, is showing obeisance (8)
KNEELING - N (night in chess notation) + EEL, all inside KING
12 Batsman, maybe, feeling more pain, having secured century (6)
SCORER - SORER with C inserted
14 Play around as one fitting tobacco into pipe? (6)
TAMPER - Double definition. One tamps tobacco into a pipe, apparrently
16 Think about new sin in revised credo (8)
CONSIDER - anagram ('new') of SIN combined with anagram ('revised') of CREDO
18 Absolute order (4)
RANK - double definition
20 No longer having money in chest (4)
BUST - double definition
21 One seeking perfection? One limited by silly details (8)
IDEALIST - I inserted into anagram ('silly') of DETAILS
23 Sailors in flat-bottomed boat showing heart (6)
24 What's carried by tutees, say — some submissions to tutor? (6)
ESSAYS - hidden word: tuteES SAY Some

2 Unknown wild area to the north offering lots of space (5)
ROOMY - Y (unknown) + MOOR, all backwards
3 Rich pet at sea in vessel (7)
PITCHER - anagram ('at sea') of RICH PET
4 Whisky kept in jar? Yes (3)
RYE - hidden word: jaR YEs
5 Material from learner you incorporated in advertisement (9)
POLYESTER - L + YE inserted into POSTER
6 Material in reef, cold on examination (5)
7 Swathe of attacks coming through river (7)
11 By the way, this safety procedure is recommended (4,5)
KERB DRILL - cryptic definition. Militarised version of the Green Cross Code promoted in the UK in the 1940s. It was the predecessor of the Green Cross Man videos of the 1970s featuring Darth Vader.
      At the kerb halt!
      Eyes right,
      Eyes left,
      Eyes right again.
      If the road is clear,
      Quick march—walk straight across.
13 Fifty retained by firm before certain shutdown (7)
CLOSURE - L (50) inside CO + SURE
15 Wits needed for children's game (7)
MARBLES - double definition
17 Salvation Army, army with name for the Devil (5)
19 Negative word about good person is unpleasant (5)
NASTY - NAY outside ST
22 I said I could be on the lookout (3)
EYE - sounds like 'I'


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Apr. 30th, 2021 06:50 am (UTC)
Very tough. Partly for the clueing, partly for the definitions. Had no idea about KERB DRILL which was phased out before I was born and even now Curatist has written it out it has failed to register — 'by the way' is a good hint if you know it I guess! Needed the hint for ROOMY, had it in but couldn't spot "to the north" for a reversal. Didn't know KEEL for a flat bottomed boat but got to KERNEL somehow — although I then entered 'kernal'. Bunged in 'fire drill' for KERB DRILL and that made KNEELING impossible, not least because I wanted the N for knight to go at the front and then it looked like it had to start with F. One to learn from. All the aids came out in the end but it was still tough to see what was going on. Enjoyed PITCHER though as it always reminds me of overhearing two American students at my Scottish university in the very late 1980s (so I nearly met KERB DRILL) reminding each other to ask for the jug when you wanted water because one had tried asking "pass the pitcher" and been met with complete silence and inaction. All but seven in 13m then struggled closer to finishing with aids by 27m but still couldn't get there. Only one person below me on the leaderboard — we may hear from him later!

Edited at 2021-04-30 07:32 am (UTC)
(no subject) - oldblighter - Apr. 30th, 2021 08:03 am (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 30th, 2021 06:59 am (UTC)
DNF Another tough one
Today’s puzzle makes the second time I failed to get six clues this week. KERB DRILL was unknown, and like many, I am sure, I put Fire Drill which knocked out 11a and left me short of checkers for POLYESTER. “Material” is a tough definition to work from. Also missed TAMPER.

1a is a nice clue with “change of direction”, although I did not parse until the blog. Also I enjoyed building up both CONSIDER and MONTREAL from the pieces.

Apr. 30th, 2021 07:14 am (UTC)
A slow but doable puzzle. As the letters dropped in the solutions to the blank gaze started to gel. I liked 1A but wondered at first if it could be Throne, Throw, changing W for NE but that didn't work so got to Proper. and appreciated the change of direction.
LOI Polyester. A chemical parrot always comes to mind.
Some excellent clues, none too extreme for me, but I did hop about a lot and ended up sub 40 mins.
Started the cure last night, should be good in about a week. (brisket that is).
Thanks everyone, enjoy the long weekend.

Edited at 2021-04-30 07:51 am (UTC)
Apr. 30th, 2021 07:17 am (UTC)
I was painfully slow, with as I recall PITCHER & POLYESTER taking too much time. And NHO KERB DRILL; and even with the checkers KERB took unnecessary time to register (I spell it 'curb'). 9:16.
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Apr. 30th, 2021 07:38 am (UTC)
Only 8 comments at 9am - must be tough!
I am glad to see that I am not the only solver to have had a hard time with this one. I started well and enjoyed my progress but slowed towards the end. I got KERB early on but needed the crossers for DRILL. I found (LOI) RANK and PACKED difficult and needed crossers for POLYESTER which took a moment or two to parse. MARBLES raised a smile.
In the end, I was on the cusp of the SCC but managed to parse everything (following my new-found determination to remove biffs if I cannot parse them). A little over 2K so that takes some of the pain away. Thanks to Izetti for a testing QC and to curarist for an excellent blog which added to my appreciation of some lovely clues. John M.
I had to look up Green Cross Man / Darth Vader to discover that David Prowse was both. Thanks, curarist.

Edited at 2021-04-30 08:08 am (UTC)
Apr. 30th, 2021 08:22 am (UTC)
Re: Only 8 comments at 9am - must be tough!
It'd be unlikely to indicate that the puzzle was tough. When there are so few early comments it's a good ploy to check the time the blog was put up. It was 07:38 today, quite early enough for the UK home audience, but some overseas regulars would not have been able to post comments at their usual time.

I had few problems getting started as I like to deal with easy pickings first but nothing jumped out at me for a while. Then I lost time thinking ACCORD at 5ac and spent too long trying to justify it. 11 minutes in all.
Re: Only 8 comments at 9am - must be tough! - curarist - Apr. 30th, 2021 11:24 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Only 8 comments at 9am - must be tough! - curarist - Apr. 30th, 2021 11:25 am (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 30th, 2021 07:41 am (UTC)
I thoroughly enjoyed this one, although it definitely fell into the chewy category. The only slightly unsatisfactory clue was LOI KERB DRILL which I'd never heard of and required all the checkers and an alphabet trawl. Lots of contenders for COD but I'll go for MARBLES. Pleased to finish in 13.14.
Thanks to Curarist
Apr. 30th, 2021 08:09 am (UTC)

Fingers all over the place this morning, but I managed to spot all of my typos before submitting.

Thank you, curarist and Izetti
Apr. 30th, 2021 08:11 am (UTC)
Got nowhere with this one. Izetti again! I really do not like this setter. Never heard of kerb drill, not even the Green Cross Code Man would have heard of it I bet.

Oh well, I look forward to Monday.
Apr. 30th, 2021 08:25 am (UTC)
Re: Awful
A large number of my generation would probably not have survived to our teens had it not been for the KERB DRILL being drummed into us from the time we started toddling.
Re: Awful - brianshankly - Apr. 30th, 2021 08:48 am (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 30th, 2021 08:12 am (UTC)
Distinctly tricky in parts — particularly after some initial mistakes: Keep Right (to face oncoming traffic when walking along the roadside) and See (I said I could). Even so, 26mins seemed a bit slow, but I will wait for a few more times to be revealed before I pass judgement. Rank was my loi, confirming my customary struggle with (some) four letter words. CoD to 7d, Expanse, a nice example of Izetti's attention to detail (use of through rather than the more natural by). Invariant
Apr. 30th, 2021 08:24 am (UTC)


Double definitions always give me problems so I really had to put the brain into gear for RANK — but getting that unlocked MARBLES and TAMPER

No problems with some of the other more difficult ones

Thanks Curarist and Izetti
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Apr. 30th, 2021 08:44 am (UTC)
I was about to query KEEL as a boat until I read Eurcon’s comment and looked it up.

Quite difficult today, and dnf, then the explanations made sense and I wished I’d thought of them myself. Not for the first time...

KERB DRILL probably saved my life as I crossed Salisbury to school on my own from the bus for 8 years. I can remember one or two near misses even now.

Thank you, Izetti and Curarist.

Apr. 30th, 2021 08:52 am (UTC)
I was slow to get going; FOI CONSIDER.
Then this required my full attention. No gimmes today. LOI was EXPANSE after 14:43.
Lots of excellent clues. Perhaps COD to ROOMY.
I have to say that I did not remember Kerb Drill so needed the checkers for that.
Apr. 30th, 2021 09:03 am (UTC)
The 15 x 15 is much easier than this today - nuf sed
Apr. 30th, 2021 02:51 pm (UTC)
I tried the 15x15 to raise my spirits after this and failed there too!
Apr. 30th, 2021 09:27 am (UTC)
Another completion in glacial time, but enjoyed the gradual process, and all parsed. Having got 1A after some pondering I was meandering all over the grid to make progress, but it was only when the NE filled out that I was able to work back to my numerous problems. PACKED just wouldn't come to mind which held up POLYESTER. The ROOMY / MYTH cross also held out for ages, and MONTREAL. Liked MYTH despite that, and ESSAYS was a neat hidden. Always glad to finish an Izetti so thanks for the exercise.
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