chrisw91 (chrisw91) wrote in times_xwd_times,

Times Quick Cryptic 1646 by Orpheus

Add a few names, a fair few abbreviations and the odd composer then mix cleverly.

9 minutes for this enjoyable QC with a mind-blank on the two longer downs - 6 and 9.

All questions welcomed.


1. Scottish citizen's misguided gag in Wales (10)
GLASWEGIAN - anagram (misguided) of GAG IN WALES.
7. Make insistent demands on section of media (5)
PRESS - double definition.
8. Your compiler's beyond taking on old painting technique (7)
IMPASTO - Orpheus was a musician poet and prophet but not a painter, it seems. Your compiler's (IM), beyond (PAST), old (O). Impasto comes up pretty often - a technique of painting thickly so the brush/palette knife leaves a mark.
10. Teach girl badly, being exceptionally drowsy (9)
LETHARGIC - anagram (badly) of TEACH GIRL.
12. Tedious routine involving stags in autumn? (3)
RUT - double definition.
13. Very cold, as a vicious dog might be! (6)
BITING - double definition.
15. Popular ship's officer, one serving time, perhaps (6)
INMATE - popular (IN), ship's officer (MATE).
16. Teashop vessel used in our neighbourhood (3)
URN - in o(UR N)eighbourhood. Perhaps the 'teashop' is a little generous but this is a QC.
17. Send down girl who's out of practice in speaking? (9)
RUSTICATE - homophone (in speaking) of girl (KATE) and out of practice (RUSTY) giving us RUSTY KATE - COD for this smile.
20. Contempt shown by inspector, attorney caught in wrongdoing (7)
DISDAIN - inspector (DI - Detective Inspector), attorney (DA - District Attorney) caught inside wrongdoing (SIN).
22. Anger about chartered accountant's girl (5)
ERICA - anger (IRE - about - backwards), chartered accountant (CA).
23. Smooth chap identifying a European songbird? (4,6)
SAND MARTIN - smooth (SAND), chap (MARTIN).


1. Large recess in fireplace place, so to speak (5)
GREAT - homophone (so to speak) of GRATE.
2. A British composer, one who's on the wagon (9)
ABSTAINER - a (A), British (B), composer (STAINER - Sir John 1849-1901).
3. Twist organ a bird uses to fly across river (5)
WRING - organ a bird uses to fly (WING  - an organ is any part of the body that has a particular function) across river (R).
4. Doctor getting to grips with youth leader's severe pain (3)
GYP - doctor (GP) gripping (Y)outh. I'm familiar with gyp - a term used by a friend of mine.
5. American visiting courts in EU country (7)
AUSTRIA - American (US) visiting (inside) courts (ATRIA).
6. Period certain to get us enthralled (10)
SPELLBOUND - period (SPELL) certain (BOUND). I think the 'us' casued me delay here as I couldn't see how to fit it in. Necessary filler for the surface, I think.
9. Excel as strategist away on common (10)
OUTGENERAL - away (OUT), common (GENERAL). My blank moment came about by not seeing all the first three words as the definition.
11. Happy to shelter in Europe, perhaps (9)
CONTINENT - happy (CONTENT) to shelter in (IN).
14. Sporting a suit in African republic (7)
TUNISIA - anagram (sporting) of A SUIT IN.
18. Woman in Iowa supporting male offspring (5)
SONIA - Iowa (IO) supporting male offspring (SON).
19. Stranger taking a rest at end of garden (5)
ALIEN - a (A), rest (LIE), garde(N).
21. Help finish off Italian opera (3)
AID - take the finishing letter off Italian opera (AID)a.


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Iowa =IA?

Re: 18 D


June 30 2020, 03:53:24 UTC 6 months ago Edited:  June 30 2020, 04:01:15 UTC

Accepted two letter state abbreviation for Iowa is IA, here is the complete list.

Alabama AL Missouri MO Alaska AK Montana MT Arizona AZ Nebraska NE Arkansas AR Nevada NV
California CA New Hampshire NH Colorado CO New Jersey NJ Connecticut CT New Mexico NM
Delaware DE New York NY District of Columbia DC North Carolina NC Florida FL
North Dakota ND Georgia GA Ohio OH Hawaii HI Oklahoma OK Idaho ID Oregon OR Illinois IL
Pennsylvania PA Indiana IN Rhode Island RI Iowa IA South Carolina SC Kansas KS
South Dakota SD Kentucky KY Tennessee TN Louisiana LA Texas TX Maine ME Utah UT
Maryland MD Vermont VT Massachusetts MA Virginia VA Michigan MI Washington WA
Minnesota MN West Virginia WV Mississippi MS Wisconsin WI Wyoming WY



June 30 2020, 03:51:49 UTC 6 months ago Edited:  June 30 2020, 03:55:37 UTC

An interesting puzzle, but I would quibble that gyp is a "severe" pain. I think that the clue is better without the additional word.
I must admit, I’ve always thought of gyp, as in pain, as a bit of a whinge but then, maybe I’ve been underestimating the suffering of others.
Collins has:
British and New Zealand slang
severe pain; torture
his arthritis gave him gyp
GYP isn't in my idiolect, so I don't know how severe it is, but I'd agree with idbgreen that 'severe' could well have been left out. Chris, at IMPASTO, IM=your compiler'S. 6:11.
Thank you.

Quick off the mark, then...


June 30 2020, 04:58:23 UTC 6 months ago Edited:  June 30 2020, 05:06:26 UTC

... I ground to a halt because I‘d put in GRATE instead of GREAT (I so often out down the wrong homonym. Some sort of mental blockage?) for 1d which made 7a PRESS impossible and thereby rendered 6d SPELLBOUND undoable until I’d realised my mistake. Doh!
Proud that I worked out (‘parsed’?) 8a IMPASTO, having never heard of it, and I totally ground to a halt with LOI 9d OUTGENERAL, which was not in my vocabulary either. As a result no time given, but probably around the 25 minute mark, which was disappointing as I‘d made such a cracking start.
Favourite clue 1a GLASWEGIAN.
Struggled to get going being still half asleep but it started to flow after a bit

Unfortunately I managed to invent the well known avian BALD MARTIN. Doesn’t look very likely when you look at it post-solve. Ugh!


9 and a half minutes with that clanger

Thanks all
10 minutes for all but 9dn where I had brain-freeze and despite a couple of alphabet trawls failed to come up with the answer and resorted to aids.
Just looked at your new Setter difficulty table - for which many thanks. We obviously operate on slightly different wavelengths, but aside from that it's interesting to see the year on year variation. Do you think it's random, or is it that the setters pay heed to the feedback from livejournal?


6 months ago

Nothing like a crossword to show up your ignorance. Couldn't work out where the T in DISTAIN came from but decided to bung it in until the checkers disproved it - never a good strategy but a hard habit to kick. Submitted in 14 thinking all was well only to find a pink square. I've being saying DISDAIN wrong all these years. Explains why I couldn't see the T. Took me a while to spot the anagram for TUNISIA, wanted TUNIC to be in there. Ignorance also shown up in never having heard of OUTGENERAL but I'm less embarrassed about that - wanted that to be OUTPERFORM but it would neither parse nor fit!
15 mins, quite a few unknowns: outgeneral, stainer.
Also didn't twig atria for plural of atrium.
LOI outgeneral submitted with fingers crossed.

Cod biting.
Started well at the top of grid then ground to a halt. DNK outgeneral or the composer so came to a halt and my brain stopped.
Eventually 21 :04 so just outside my target. Thanks for the info on US state abbreviations .
Had four clues left to do after 15 mins, trudged through two of them in the ensuing 15 mins and gave up at 30 mins in still without RUSTICATE and OUTGENERAL (not a word I've heard used, but one I should have been able to get). My brain feels like mash potato today...

FOI: glaswegian
COD: rusticate
Must have been a bit more 'in the mood' this morning. This developed pretty well by my current standards - finished in 12.05 which is, at least, under 2K. No great hangups apart from OUTGENERAL where, like others I wanted to enter outperform. At least that opened up my LOI ERICA. RUSTICATE and ABSTAINER raised smiles. Many thanks to Orpheus and Chris. John M.
This wasn't easy so I was pleased to be down to my last two after 12:44. However 23a needed a good look;I was also tempted by BALD (smooth) but once Martin occurred to me,I was fine.
LOI 9d (it seems this will be LOI for lots) took a long look and an alphabet trawl to find the rather clunky OUTGENERAL. 14:58 on the clock, so better than yesterday.
COD to RUSTICATE. I seem to be nominating homophones more orphan than before.
20 minutes and 31 seconds with OUTGENERAL the most significant factor, before LTI RUSTICATE and ALIEN. I have no idea why ‘recess in’ is needed in 1d except to confuse - the clue would work perfectly well without those redundant words, and I agree that ‘severe’ is both redundant and potentially misleading in 4d. My experience with the use of the word GYP is that it is usually applied to a nagging, rather than severe pain, as in “I have a bit of gyp in my left knee”. Other than those two bits of redundancy, And the Iowa mistake, I enjoyed the challenge. Thanks Orpheus and Chris.
Re gyp - please see the reply I’ve just made to idbgreen above.
As for grate being a recess in a fireplace - I suppose the metal bars which comprise the grate do have to be recessed inside the fireplace itself - otherwise smoke would go up inside the room rather than the chimney. I suspect that our setter was distinguishing between grate and hearth (upon which the grate sits).


June 30 2020, 09:24:12 UTC 6 months ago

Managed to do today's (with a bit of help). DNK IMPASTO, STAINER, ATRIA. Gyp is not severe pain, surely.
Collins has:
British and New Zealand slang
severe pain; torture
his arthritis gave him gyp
I enjoyed this - thanks again setter and blogger. I liked Austria because although I have never come across the plural of Atrium there was enough there to help me get it, so I learned something and that was great for me. I have got irritated in the past when an obscure word is used with an equally obscure clue but this was fine!
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