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Times Quick Cryptic No 1283 by Orpheus

Another Orpheus puzzle for me to mull over – I seem to get a lot of Orpheus (not that I am complaining!).  This one took me 12 minutes and 34 seconds, so almost exactly in the middle of my target range.

There is some unusual vocab for a QC in both clues and answers (SCAD, ISINGLASS, EULOGY, TEMPI, PSHAW, LORIMER, ENCOMIUM and PROA to name a few), but I think they are all very fairly and generously clued.  Some of them will provide the sort of challenge for newbies that will stretch them somewhat, but it is good for all of us to be stretched occasionally.

I didn't spot any repetition of the typos that plagued us yesterday, and my grid appeared to work flawlessly, so hopefully these things are behind us.

Thanks Orpheus for the challenge.  Please let me know how you all got on.  See below for my CoD and WoD.

Precise account given by member of clergy (8)
ACCURATE – AC (account) and CURATE (member of clergy).
5  Unhappy  eating cold fish (4)
SCAD – SAD (unhappy) eating C{old}.  SCAD is a type of fish similar to a mackerel, and sometimes called horse mackerel.
9 German city identified by odd characters in East Sheen (5)
ESSEN – Alternate letters (odd characters) in E[a}S{t} S{h}E{e}N.
10  Person taking holiday just before the fall? (7)
TRIPPER – Whimsical cryptic definition, close to a double definition.  An excursionist or person taking a holiday would be a tripper as would someone about to take a fall after a trip.  Can anyone see anything else in this?
11  Copy paper with edges cut off (3)
APE –  {p}APE{r} – with the edges cut off – i.e. remove first and last letters.
12 Gelatinous substance in abandoned sailing ship (9)
ISINGLASS – Anagram (abandoned) of [SAILING] and SS (ship).  ISINGLASS is a gelatine like substance obtained from, amongst other sources, a sturgeon’s air-bladder, and used in the clarification of beer.  Sailing is the anagrist (the letters to be manipulated as part of the anagram), and does not refer to the first part of SS - SS is rarely used to indicate Sailing Ship, and these days more often refers to Steam Ship or a Single Screw vessel, although I suppose it could be doing double duty - although that isn't necessary for the cue or the wordplay.
13  Record kept in Brussels may finally produce encomium (6)
EULOGY – EU (European Union, hence Brussels, just in case you had forgotten about the EU) and LOG (record) followed by {ma}Y (finally).  Here is our Brexit clue of the day, linking Theresa May to one of her adversaries.  An encomium isn't an old musical instrument (which is what it sounds like), but is a EULOGY or high commendation, usually for someone who has recently departed!  Do we think there is a hidden message here, and is it for our PM or for the EU in these fractuous and troubled times?
15  Report of officer in centre of Brazil? (6)
KERNEL – Homophone (report of) – KERNEL sounds loosely like Colonel, and is the fruit at the centre of a Brazil nut, for example.
17  Attendant admits fire-raising in priest’s residence (9)
PARSONAGE – Arson (fire-raising) surrounded or admitted by PAGE (attendant).
19  Old French coin originally spent on underwear (3)
SOU – First letters (originally) of S{pent} O{n} U{nderwear}.  A SOU was originally a 5-centime piece, or more generally, any small amount of money.
20  Part of skeleton?  That sounds funny (7)
HUMERUS – Another homophone, this time with the answer sounding like humorous (funny).
21  Speeds imposed at first on casual worker (5)
TEMPI – TEMP (casual worker) and I{mposed} (at first).  TEMPI is the plural of TEMPO meaning speed or rate.
22 Be employed in Hounslow or Kennington (4)
WORK – Hidden answer in {hounslo}W OR K{ennington}.  The latest Project Fear would have it that none of us will be so employed after a no-deal Brexit
23  Move towards chap swimming round Malay boat (8)
APPROACH – Anagram (swimming) of [CHAP] round PROA (Malay boat).  For those that haven’t come across this before, a Proa is a fast Malay sailing- or rowing-vessel with both ends alike, and a flat side with an outrigger to leeward.  Now you know!

1 Artificial fibre in church gallery (7)
ACETATE – A (a) CE (church, as in Church of England) and TATE (gallery).  ACETATE is short for Acetate Rayon, an artificial fibre.
Class teacher initially involved in court action (5)
CASTE – T{eacher} (originally) inside CASE (court action).
Part of early motor carthe chairman’s responsibility? (7,5)
RUNNING BOARD – Double definition, the first referring to the footboard along the side of some early (and some later) automobiles, the second referring to one of the many responsibilities of our overworked chairmen, the board here being the Board of Directors.
Bantu-speaker expresses disapproval over island (5)
TUTSI – To emit TUTS is to express disapproval, followed by I{sland}.  The TUTSI are members of the Bantu people living in Rwanda and Burundi, where the Bantu language is widely spoken.
6 Officer liable to be taken in by murderer (7)
CAPTAIN – The murderer is CAIN of Old Testament fame, taking in or containing APT (liable).
Shoots game (5)
DARTS – A double definition following Rotter’s Law – two word clues are invariably DDs.
8  One digesting short records in small car? (6-6)
SINGLE-SEATER – SINGLES (short records) and EATER (one digesting).
14  See old poet? He would have made a bit once! (7)
LORIMER – LO (see) and RIMER (archaic spelling of rhymer, e.g. old poet).  A LORIMER was the maker of the metal parts of horse-harnesses, such as the bits themselves.  The cryptic definition part wins my nomination for CoD.
16 Unmannerly leaders of illegal sect in Irish county (7)
LOUTISH –  First letters (leaders of) I{llegal} and S{ect} inside LOUTH (Irish county).  Unmannerly wins my nomination for WoD.
17  Quiet playwright?  Don’t make me laugh! (5)
PSHAW – P (quiet) and SHAW (playwright).  PSHAW is defined in my Chambers app as ‘expressing contempt or impatience’.
18 Greek writer’s main upset over work (5)
AESOP – SEA (main) upset (overturned) followed by OP (work, as in OPUS).  AESOP nearly makes another appearance as a NINA in the 12th column.
19  Dance composed by a doctor in South America (5)
SAMBA – A (a) and MB (doctor) inside S{outh} A{merica}.  MB as a 'doctor' always troubled me until I looked it up a few weeks ago when blogging, to discover that it stands for Medicinae Baccaleureus (Latin) - or Bachelor of Medicine to you and I.


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Feb. 7th, 2019 02:57 am (UTC)
I was surprised to find the sort of words The Rotter mentions here, and I won't be surprised if some objections are raised. I didn't know SCAD, but it seemed inescapable. I'd thought ISINGLASS was an obsolete word for mica (ODE gives the mica def as US, says nothing about obsolete). LORIMER I only knew from a 15x15 (I just now realized that I never parsed this). I think APPROACH was my LOI; I finally saw PROA post-submission. Bantu is not a language, but a (large) group of languages, a branch of the Niger-Congo family. The TUTSI don't speak Bantu (no one does) but Rwanda-Rundi. 5:43

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Feb. 7th, 2019 03:00 am (UTC)
I thought this was pretty hard for a Quickie....
...with obscure answers, deceptive literals, and complicated wordplay. However, the usual fast solvers don't seem to have slowed down, while I was only one second quicker than tonight's blogger, at 12:33.

Part of the problem, I think was that I wasn't expecting this complicated style in a Quickie, and thought I was overlooking the obvious. At least I knew 'proa', which is primarily found in American puzzles, along with 'bireme' and 'trireme'. I did have my doubts that 'scad' might be a fish, but concluded that it must be one indeed.

I'd be curious to see how the SCC finished, or didn't.
Feb. 7th, 2019 05:03 am (UTC)
I agree there is tricky stuff going on here and perhaps too much of it to appear in a single QC puzzle, however I completed in 9 minutes today which is better than quite a few of my recent solves. SCAD was my only unknown, or rather, forgotten, as it has come up on four previous occasions, twice in a QC both of which were set by Orpheus. If one speaks a Bantu language doesn't that, in general terms, make one a Bantu-speaker?

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Feb. 7th, 2019 05:53 am (UTC)
Bantu spoken here?
Well, yes, in the same sense that you and I are Indo-European speakers, or Germanic speakers, or that the French are Romance speakers (but not speakers of Indo-European or Germanic or Romance). This sense is, I think, enough to cover the setter's proverbial, and I wasn't objecting to the clue; I just wanted to make the point that Bantu isn't a language (although it probably was; there was a Proto-Bantu once).
Re: Bantu spoken here? - jackkt - Feb. 7th, 2019 06:13 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Bantu spoken here? - kevingregg - Feb. 7th, 2019 06:28 am (UTC) - Expand
RE: Re: Bantu spoken here? - therotter - Feb. 7th, 2019 05:57 pm (UTC) - Expand
RE: Re: Bantu spoken here? - therotter - Feb. 8th, 2019 09:30 am (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 7th, 2019 05:53 am (UTC)
Definitely at the hard end of the range for me. Almost all the words Rotter mentions caused me problems and did I'm afraid detract from the enjoyment but if I can remember them they may be useful in the future. Next!
Feb. 7th, 2019 07:30 am (UTC)
Way too hard, the 15x15 is easier today.

Lorimer, rimer

? God help newbies
Feb. 7th, 2019 11:55 am (UTC)
I've got to disagree with you regarding the 15x15 today - by my standards, I found it quite tricky (see my blog when completed !)
(no subject) - nurse_ratchett - Feb. 8th, 2019 02:17 pm (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 7th, 2019 08:14 am (UTC)
After 13 minutes I needed two: 8d and 12a. Once I got SEATER as the second word for 8d, I saw the rest. My LOI was the unknown ISINGLASS finishing in 17:15.
As already mentioned, the obscurities made this difficult but the cryptics allowed them to be derived with a bit of luck and experience.
Feb. 7th, 2019 08:21 am (UTC)
Gave up after 25 minutes (the length of my morning train journey) - defeated by single seater, isinglass and kernel. Enjoyable nonetheless.
Feb. 7th, 2019 09:04 am (UTC)
37 minutes, so almost double my target. There were also a total of five unknown words so without the Chambers app on my phone I would have been really stuck. There's nothing wrong with adding to my vocabulary but five may be too many for one puzzle.


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Feb. 7th, 2019 09:18 am (UTC)
Just shy of 30 minutes for me, so I was actually quite pleased with my time given the words everyone is mentioning. Much too hard for newbies though.
Feb. 7th, 2019 09:42 am (UTC)
I agree with the summary about the vocabulary and the clueing although I would be surprised if any of us have ever used pshaw or seen it written?? Today though I'm feeling miffed about my OED. I don't know the word Scad but it looked likely. OED says another term for JACK - sense 11. Wouldn't it have been just as easy to say marine fish see JACK. Similarly I didn't know Lorimer but I remember the footballer. OED gave Loriner with no mention of alternative - Chambers more helpfully does give both.
Feb. 7th, 2019 09:56 am (UTC)
One thing you learn from having a vegetarian in the family is that lots of beers and wine are not suitable for vegetarians, because they have been clarified ("fined") with ISINGLASS. So that one gave me no problem, unlike SINGLE-SEATER and TEMPI, which took ages and pushed me over the 3 Kevin mark (thus a Very Bad Day).

The SCAD may look similar to a mackerel to us, but I can assure you from numerous fishing trips that a turbot can pick the difference a mile off: scad bait will catch you nothing!

Thanks Orpheus, and Rotter for a very clear blog.

Feb. 7th, 2019 10:22 am (UTC)
Interesting mix of clues, some flying in, others involving head-scratching. LORIMER was unknown but more likely than LOHOMER, although I now have a feeling I have come across it (should be a word for that). NHO PROA, but answer fell in with checkers. Missed complete parsing of CAPTAIN, though CAIN is becoming more familiar as a murderer. KERNEL gets my vote for COD. Quite satisfied with 14.04 in the circs.
Feb. 7th, 2019 11:12 am (UTC)
This was really tough for a quickie, with some tricky surfaces and answers. I was finally home and hosed in 9:29, so just within my target. Thanks to Orpheus for the work out and to Rotter for the blog.

Feb. 7th, 2019 11:27 am (UTC)
This one had a sting in the tail. After about 10 minutes I had 13a, 14d and 12a left and eventually completed the puzzle in 23.55. I should probably have been able to work out EULOGY more quickly from the word play despite not knowing what encomium was and that would have allowed me to bif the unknown poet. It also took me way too long to realise that 12a was an anagram and then it was just a case of guessing which order the S and N went (INISGLASS looked just as plausible to me).
Thanks for the blog
Feb. 7th, 2019 11:31 am (UTC)
The Vaux Brewery(RIP) in Sunderland was famous for its drays and cart horses, which I often used to see around the town(it wasn't a city then) when I went to grammar school there. One of their brews was Lorimer's Ale, so I got that clue without too much thinking. SCAD has cropped up recently, as mentioned by Jack, ISINGLASS was familiar, as my daughter and her husband are Vegans, and my brother is a home brewer. ACCURATE was my FOI and SINGLE SEATER my last. Nice puzzle with some words to stretch the less experienced. 9:18. Thanks Orpheus and Rotter.
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