....in between watching golf on TV, making phone calls, posting replies on the web, etc, etc. Pretty tough, with lots of obscure vocabulary. I'll bet not many solvers have heard of the belted Galloway until today, and for tiffin you practically need Conrad. However, nixies were known to me from Beowulf, where they appear as nicors.

My biggest problem was that I was convinced that the third word of 1 across ended in -dish. When I gave up that idea, and erased all the crossing letters, I got the correct answer almost at once. Never jump to conclusions.....or at least be prepared to unjump!

COD to 'dandelion', a very deceptive kind of wine indeed.

Oops that should have been "tiffin".

I thought I was out of the closet. Anyway, I am now.
Mike, Skiathos.

Yes, it reminds me of Khyber too (which has surely the funniest ever scene of all the Carry Ons), but I know the word too from a chocolate wafer bar that was around in the 50s and/or 60s. I think it was made by Terry's. There's a Cadbury's Tiffin on Google available now but it's not the same as the product I remember.

24:31 .. most of this in around ten minutes and then a spectacular arrival at the buffers with MISTED, BELTED GALLOWAY, TESSERACT and PRUNELLA all unknowns. Very painful crawl to the finish line.

MISTED was the only one that went in with fingers crossed, but the cryptic was just about enough once the checkers were in. Can we have a straw pole on how many people actually knew this meaning of TED?

You're nearly breaking down my resistance, jimbo!

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Jack

Edited at 2012-02-14 04:46 am (UTC)

Pleased to return to form in just over the hour (63 minutes), with the NE last to fall after BOVVER had clicked. All the usual suspects were unknown to me, and I have learned what an ‘argosy’ is, having previously had no clue besides thinking it must have something to do with Jason and his merry men. No, apparently it is derived from Ragusa (modern day Dubrovnik), after a liberal application of Grimm’s Law.

Must remember TED.

The clock says 67 minutes but it felt longer. Maybe not putting FREAK SHOW would have got me under the hour? Maybe not. The SAWDUST, DANDELION & TED (add me to the completely unknown/forgotten list) must have taken 20 minutes on their own. COD to the TEA PARTY for its harbouring.

Rather an exercise in obscurity, this one. MISTED was the only one I was unsure about at the end, but I got as far as checking sabeering for the bird at 9ac before I realised my stupidity. However, I did know the BELTED GALLOWAY; a farming friend pointed out a herd of them to me as we drove into Scotland a few years ago, and I've remembered the name ever since. It's probably as handsome a cow as you're ever likely to see. Oh, and I had freak show as well for a long time.

Edited at 2012-01-13 08:17 am (UTC)

I just noticed that, by coincidence, there was BILL SYKES/SIKES query in that blog too, in an early comment.

As others have said a collection of somewhat obscure references that began to mildly irritate after a while. A bit of a 35 minute slog but without huge enjoyment for some reason. I finished it more because I was determined to than because it stimulated me. Solved anti-clockwise for the second day running. Well blogged Jack - not an easy one.

The pub was a trip down memory lane. One of my earlier memories is sitting on the step outside outside a Tooting pub drinking lemonade, eating Smiths Crisps, smelling the hops and playing with the sawdust.

35 minutes for this. Tough, as others have said, but I did enjoy it a lot. A narrow escape because I came very close indeed to bunging in SABEERING in desperation.
Unknowns: SABREWING, NIXIE, TESSERACT, PRUNELLA, BELTED GALLOWAY, ARGOSY, EYEBRIGHT, TIFFIN as "lunch". Almost quicker to list the things I did know.
Dandelion wine? Really?

18:07 here, but NIXIE, BELTED GALLOWAY and PRUNELLA as a cloth were the only unknowns. I also spent a couple of minutes pondering (cow got labelled)*, and also wasted a bit on (act harbouring)* for 26ac until I got a couple of checkers. On the other hand 1ac and 1dn went in straight away, so the top left was filled very quickly.

Very challenging (and enjoyable) but I got there in the end (though trying, post-solve, to check TESSERACT in online OED gave me a sense of alarm; fortunately Google came through). My farming background made BELTED GALLOWAY relatively easy; MISTED went in with fingers crossed (I almost went for TINTED) - I guessed the definition was 'obscured' but could not resolve the wordplay at all. So thanks, jackkt, for a great blog which demisted this and much else.

This immediately brought to mind the Heinlein story "... and he built a crooked house", whilst "Dandelion Wine" is by Bradbury.
Do we have a closet SF fan among us?

14:32 and thought this a thing of beauty - the things I didn't know (or at least didn't know for sure) were numerous, but (at least as far as I was concerned, your mileage may vary) were clued in such a way that there was scarcely room for doubt. There again, comments so far suggest this setter is one of those whose work causes Marmite-like divisions among solvers...

Off to a brisk start with the 1s going straight in but eventually stopped the fake Rolex at 26:42.

As with others I had most trouble in the NE with the fleet, cow, shape, pixie and grass. In fact I only got the sailor's hornpipe once I remembered "nix" as US slang.

Put me down as another who tried to recall if Bill Oddie had ever spotted a sabeering. I also misparsed leather as L + THE in EAR, though what sort of number ear is supposed to be I have no clue.

I'm ambivalent on the puzzle as a whole, finding it neither irritating nor beautiful.

By comparison with yesterday's puzzle this was far less frustrating. Lassoed the cow from the crosses, only two words that made sense together. Had sabrebill for the bird, which it is, until fathoming 5 down. Nixie is an item of undeliverable mail in the US, a gas-filled electron tube in laboratories and a watery spirit in German folk tales and Times crosswords. Is bovver a word or a corruption?

Enigma

The definition of a TESSERACT as a 'cube within a cube' is a bit misleading. It's actually a four-dimensional hypercube, and it's only its projection into three dimensions that appears like this (with each vertex of the inner cube connected to the corresponding vertex of the outer one), just as a projection of a cube into two dimensions can appear as a 'square within a square'. For more, see this article from Wikipedia.

Some interesting words here, unfortunately not including sabeering, a most unlikely solution that (yet again) I forgot to go back to, so a technical dnf but an enjoyable solving experience nonetheless. I do like these perimetrics. 'Tiffin' is still said all the time in India.

"And the spreading and the tedding of the straw for a bedding" - from the poem Tarantella by Hilaire Belloc.

http://poemsandprose.blog.co.uk/2006/09/01/title~1087465/

for the whole thing.

About 50 minutes, so not easy. Held up mostly by the pub, the spirit, the wine, PRUNELLA, and my last entry, MISTED. I was particularly misled by NIXIE. As I note above, in the US "nix" is a verb usually meaning to turn down, or squelch. I don't recall ever having heard it to mean "nothing", which in US slang can be 'zip', 'zilch', or even, 'squat', but I can't equate it to 'nix'. So I was a bit cranky with that. I expect there's a dictionary somewhere that supports it or it wouldn't be here, but if it ever did carry that meaning, I don't think it does any longer. Regards to all.

See "Oklahoma" - "I'm just a girl who cain't say no, I'm in a turrible fix. I always say come on let's go, just when I orta say nix". Got tiffin from the Raj Quartet. No idea how long this took me - eons and computer is on the fritz.

But what she orta say is 'No!', not 'Nothing'. I spent some time trying to force 'nada' to combine with 'i' in the right way to get 'naiad', but in any case gave up; two DNFs in a row.
Ray Bradbury wrote 'Dandelion Wine', a short story collection, I believe; otherwise I'd never heard of the stuff.

Despite getting 1ac and 1dn straight off (and most of the left hand side), I took an age with this one, but eventually managed most ok. Needed to use dictionary to check the cow (I too spent a long time trying to work out 'cow got labelled' as an anagram), and the ship, despite thinking of this word early on, as we had this meaning of ROSY a couple of days ago.

I too had FREAK SHOW for a while, and SABEERING (doh!).

Didn't enjoy this one nearly as much as yesterday's, and I think that may be because of the amount of unknown vocab in today's. Yesterday's clueing seemed somehow more creative.

Have a good weekend, everyone, see y'all next week!

18:50 here for another toughie. BELTED GALLOWAY was a complete unknown, and SABREWING (where, like keriothe, I came perilously close to bunging in SABEERING) and TESSERACT rang only faint bells.

Some splendid clues, particularly those for MISTED and BOSTON TEA PARTY (whose Y fortunately ruled out COW from the anagram in 8dn).


Edited at 2012-01-13 10:49 pm (UTC)

From the dim dark mists: Tesseract - the equidimensional orthogonal projection of a cube into four-space. Well yes, of course. When you put it that way ...