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45 minutes for this reasonably straightforward offering. There are a few mathematical/geometrical references but nothing too arty-farty nor even any cricket as far as I can see, which is certainly a rarity. Whilst solving I invented a desert area called "Quita" but wiser thoughts prevailed when it came to blogging 3dn.



Across
1 DISTEMPER - STEM (stop) inside DIP (hollow), Effigies, Ready
6 LEECH - LEE (shelter), CH (companion - of honour)
9 PROFUSE - PROF (academic), USE (value)
10 PEANUTS - Anagram [dazed] of ANd UPSET
11 HOIST - I inside HOST (present)
12 TOP BANANA - OP (work) + BANAl (trivial) inside ANT (worker) reversed
14 LAG - Double definition
15 BUSINESS END - BUS (transport), IN, ESSEN (German city), louDest
17 GRAVEN IMAGE - RAVE (party) inside MING (dynasty) reversed, AGE (time)
19 PAY - YAP (chatter) reversed
20 RIGMAROLE - RIG (engineer), MA (degree), ROLE (job)
22 TORUS - RU (sport - Rugby Union) inside TOSh (nonsense)
24 TWEETER - TWEE (affected), TiER (row)
26 RAPPORT - RAP (charge - slang for a legal charge), PORT (connection point)
27 MOTOR - M (miles), O (over), TOR (hill)
28 CONSTRAIN - CONS (rips off), TRAIN (part of dress)


Down
1 DEPTH - aDEPT (expert), H (hard)
2 SHOWING - SH (quiet), OWING (due)
3 EQUITABLE - QUIT (desert) + A (area) inside ELBE (river) reversed
4 PRESTISSIMO - REST (support) + IS inside PSI (Greek letter), MO (second)
5 RIP - tRIP (false step)
6 LLAMA - Hidden
7 EMULATE - EMU (Australian runner), LATE (former)
8 HUSBANDRY - S (society) inside HUB (focus), AN, DRY (arid)
13 PENTAHEDRON - Anagram of NEAR THE POND
14 LOGARITHM - L, anagram of MAO RIGHT
16 SWEET SPOT - TOP (first), E (European) inside STEWS (worries) all reversed
18 AUGMENT - GaME (contest) inside AUNT (member of family)
19 PERGOLA - ERGO (so) inside ALP (mountain) reversed
21 ALTER - L (large) inside ATE (put away), R (resistance)
23 SIT-IN - Double definition
25 REC - Short for "recreation ground" sounds like "wreck" (trash)

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vinyl1
Jun. 13th, 2014 01:43 am (UTC)
I found this considerably more difficult...
...than Jack did, taking nearly 90 minutes. My last in was 'lag', which I was a little uncertain about, since I could not see how it could mean 'cover'. Everything else was at least clear from the cryptic, once you got the answer.

There were a number of fine clues, including those for 'pergola', 'logarithm', 'sweet spot' and 'rapport', all of which require careful unraveling.
jackkt
Jun. 13th, 2014 01:53 am (UTC)
Lag
Did you get there in the end? One lags (covers) pipes to prevent them freezing in winter and also hot-water tanks to prevent heat loss.
ulaca
Jun. 13th, 2014 02:11 am (UTC)
Similar time to vinyl, so this was a considerable struggle. Not helped by putting 'bag' at 19a (profit - gab reversed) and 'algorithm' at 14d.

A very enjoyable puzzle, for all that, with special mentions in despatches for SWEET SPOT, RIGMAROLE ( RE not clued by 'engineer'), REC and RAPPORT. My last two were the unknown PERGOLA, which followed the always forgotten TORUS.
vinyl1
Jun. 13th, 2014 11:58 am (UTC)
I had 'bag' as well, but had to erase it when I saw 'husbandry'.
janie_l_b
Jun. 13th, 2014 06:08 am (UTC)
DNF

Ooops! After an hour or so I had blanks at BUSINESS END (good clue, now I see it) and EQUITABLE, and GRAVEN IMAGE, which I was never going to get as I mis-saw the enumeration as 8,3 and was looking for something 'age' which meant a time. That was a bit dumb.

z8b8d8k
Jun. 13th, 2014 07:38 am (UTC)
25.14, with a short diversion to re-enter about half the clues following a twitchy finger restart. Then at the end, as I submitted, the timer jumped to 40 and kept going: the site never loses its capacity for doing the unexpected. It's got my time right on the board and the clock has now stopped.
Not one for getting the answers from the wordplay, rather one for getting the wordplay from the answers, though from memory both the German bus and PEANUTS were exceptions. So ingenious was the cluing, though, that it was never enough just to enter from definition (once found) - you just had to stop and work out the wordplay.
Spent a while trying to picture a pentahedron before realising it was either a pyramid or a prism and couldn't have five identical faces. The joy of maths.
RIGMAROLE for CoD partly for being an excellent word and also, as Ulaca says, not having engineer=RE.

Edited at 2014-06-13 07:39 am (UTC)
keriothe
Jun. 13th, 2014 07:52 am (UTC)
15m. Nice puzzle this, presenting a challenge without resort to obscurity. Which of course means 'using words I happen to know'. There were quite a few that I chucked in from definition, but as z8 says in most cases you had to pay at least some attention to the wordplay to be sure. I was grateful for the anagram at 14 because I always want to spell it LOGARYTHM. I know (by dint of multiple crossword failures) that it's wrong but the urge just won't go away. I have a similar problem with putting two Ls in 'accelerate'.
galspray
Jun. 13th, 2014 08:32 am (UTC)
Just snuck in under the hour, but for some reason I had EQUATABLE. Screamed loudly as I submitted, realising my mistake, but the internet shows no mercy.

Although 1dn was obviously DEPTH once the checkers were in, I took ages to see how a 5-letter word could end in DEPT. Probably should have tried running through the alphabet.

Excellent puzzle I thought.
jerrywh
Jun. 13th, 2014 08:36 am (UTC)
straightforward, this, I thought. Only one cup. Though had some trouble parsing 4dn, albeit fairly obvious what the answer was.
dyste
Jun. 13th, 2014 11:42 am (UTC)
I found this quite difficult, taking 55 minutes to complete it, with most of the final 10 minutes spent on the DE corner. Having determined that the Greek letter in 4 was PI, I wasted much time looking for the indication of the third S. I should have moved on, since there was no doubt about the answer.
Very nice puzzle.
mohn2
Jun. 13th, 2014 05:10 pm (UTC)
I'll join you in the "Wrong Greek letters beginning with P" club, as I was looking for phi.
crypticsue
Jun. 13th, 2014 12:00 pm (UTC)
I thought I had spent longer than 14:39 on this one as there were several that took a bit of head scratching.
allan_sidcup
Jun. 13th, 2014 01:04 pm (UTC)
Nice puzzle. Could someone pls help me with 5d- should it not be 'for rend' rather than 'for rent'? Or does 'missing time' do dual service with rip(t) meaning rent?
Andy Borrows
Jun. 13th, 2014 01:09 pm (UTC)
Allan, "rent" can be a noun meaning a hole torn in something, i.e. a "rip", also used as a noun.
(no subject) - allan_sidcup - Jun. 13th, 2014 01:47 pm (UTC) - Expand
Andy Borrows
Jun. 13th, 2014 01:06 pm (UTC)
19 mins. I was a little disappointed with this time and I was going to blame it on doing the puzzle three hours later than I normally do, but having read the comments above maybe it wasn't too bad after all. Count me as another who initially had "bag" at 19ac, and that was my FOI. I thought that I was slow getting on the setter's wavelength, and despite being fairly sure that DISTEMPER and DEPTH were that answers at 1ac/1dn I didn't enter them until I had most of the other checkers, and only after entering them did I see how they were parsed. I finished off in the SW with LOGARITHM after RIGMAROLE. An enjoyable puzzle.
pootle73
Jun. 13th, 2014 01:34 pm (UTC)
I thought this was going to be quick when I had all but the NW finished in 15 minutes but after another 15 minutes I'd got no further. As is often helpful I left it for a while then came back to it at which time the NW finally yielded.

Initially I put in ALGORITHM at 14D wondering how that meant power. I should have taken the view that if it seems wrong it probably is but fortunately I saw this error quite quickly. The main things delaying the NW were having written TRP in 5D and not seeing this for ages and confusing the river with the actor Idris Elba before I'd fully parsed 3D. Together these made DISTEMPER much harder than it might have been otherwise.
justinwestcork
Jun. 13th, 2014 01:50 pm (UTC)
45 minutes of enjoyable solving. There IS a cricket reference – 'over' in 27ac.
dorsetjimbo
Jun. 13th, 2014 02:51 pm (UTC)
Done after a splendid round of golf in baking heat. You can see the water being pulled out of the ground and the greens are now in excellent condition.

25 minutes for a pleasurable puzzle that kept me thinking right the way through. As others have said both definitions and wordplays were needed - a sure sign of good clues
bigtone53
Jun. 13th, 2014 03:16 pm (UTC)
A tad under 40mins of enjoyable solving with no issues (once solved of course).

Meanwhile on The Times app and after yesterday's inadvertent inclusion of the answer to the Third Qualifier, the heavy-duty solution continues. There are no answers to any of yesterday's puzzles today. Stable-doors etc.
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